Dating Disasters And Therapy Talks: Where’s The Exit?

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Varese Welcome.

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Thank you for having me.

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We have an international man in the house Fitting, because today's International Women's Day right.

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Wait, is it today?

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or was it yesterday it was yesterday.

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Yeah you're right, yeah, except we've got an international man, not an international.

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Well, we have an international woman.

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Oh yeah, we've been in over eight countries yeah eight countries wow, my father was a diplomat so I've been around.

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So back to you.

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So I'm curious you've been in the states about 20 years.

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Do you notice a difference in international women versus american women?

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um, yes, um well, I mean, I've dated people from different parts of the country, of the world too, and there is.

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But fundamentally, you know, we're human beings, we just grow up and we're a product of our circumstance and what we do.

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But there are certain differences.

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I think Indian men, indian women, tend to be a little bit more conservative, but once they're out of their shell they're not.

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I think American women sometimes can be a little standoffish, but maybe that's just Scottsdale, you know so, Scottsdale.

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But I've met all types so I can't really say there's like a material difference.

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People are people, no matter where they're from.

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Well, we had heard that women now are starting to expect the man on a first date to pay for their hair and makeup.

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Our producer was telling us he was going to go on a first date and he got a text that said hey, it's going to cost me $200 to get my hair and makeup done to look good for you.

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Here's my Venmo handle Like.

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I feel like that's an American thing, right, totally Right.

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Oh, that is maybe more than an American thing.

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Has that ever happened to you?

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Oh hell, no, that would be a like.

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No, thank you, enjoy your night at home.

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Enjoy your hair and makeup With another man At another man's expense.

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When you guys had sent me that sample of one of the interviews you did and there was this story about this.

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There was this discussion you guys were having about the woman expecting the man to pay for the babysitter.

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I'm like, wow, that is unique.

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And no.

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So you wouldn't't if a woman asked you to.

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Would that be a hard no, would you hard no?

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hard.

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No, I'm taking out time too.

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My time's valuable.

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Uh, why don't you pay for my massage and my haircut and beard trim?

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Those things are not cheap these days that is true men's haircuts.

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Men's haircuts are getting expensive I have a friend who has an 18 year old son and and he's very particular about his barber and his mom is just like since when did men's haircuts become so expensive?

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I was having this conversation two days ago and I think I was at dinner with a couple of female friends of mine and I was like, yeah, I'm going for a haircut.

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They're like how much does that cost?

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$15?

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I'm like where do you live it?

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I was like how much does that cost?

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15 bucks?

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I'm like where do you live?

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It was like $80 plus tips.

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So it ain't cheap.

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So yeah, if they want to pay for my stuff, then sure I'll pay for this.

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So you have female friends that you're.

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So this has been a discussion too on a couple of episodes.

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Do you feel that adult men and women can be friends with each other platonically if they?

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Are mature and healthy and healthy?

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Absolutely.

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But I will say you know, men are men.

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That dynamic is more pushed by women than men.

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It is easier for women to be friends platonically with men than it is for men with women, but men will mirror whatever the vibe is in general.

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But yes, I have a lot of interesting and fun single female friends.

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That if they called you tomorrow and said hey, vresh, let's put our friendship aside, let's do this thing, you'd still say no.

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I mean no, why would I do that?

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Like I said, I am a man, so I have a question Do you get people asking you stupid questions?

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Like when I was single, I would get so many men saying, oh so you're from england.

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What language do you speak over there?

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Or how do you say hello in your language?

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or is england the capital of france?

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Like do you?

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ever get people that are just don't know much about india, where it is, or um, yes and no, it's kind of all over the place.

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But one thing I do get pretty consistently is oh my god, your accent is like not even there.

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You speak english really good and get that.

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It's not well, but it's good, but yeah, I think that's.

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That's one of the standard ones I get is look, oh my god, your english is so good I get that.

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I used to get that a lot when I was dating, like, oh, you're from england, what language do you speak over there?

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your english is so good, like in england we speak english the queen's english does your family want you to date an Indian woman or marry an Indian woman?

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Has that ever been a thing for you Been there?

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done that, so now they don't really care that much.

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They just want me to be happy, you know.

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So they're not trying to arrange a marriage for you.

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They're not that old school.

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That did happen for a while.

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But, like I said, you know, we get older and they just want me to be happy and find someone.

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At least they just don't want me to be alone, which I don't want either.

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Yeah, are your family here or are they back in India?

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Yeah, so what's left?

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Just my dad and I.

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He's here.

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He actually lives about a mile away from me, oh nice, so it's nice.

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I go see him every now and then and check up on him.

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He's getting older.

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He's 83 now, so you know, it's that time of life where the people that you care about are getting older and becoming more dependent.

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So it's kind of interesting.

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But yeah, that's him and I.

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You know what I love about the Indian culture, so I lived in England and I had a lot of Indian neighbors and Indian friends and I love how like a lot of the parents live with their children.

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Yeah, it's not going to work for me.

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Yeah, no, I love you Dad, but no.

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I have a patient.

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They're an Indian family and the mother's parents live with them and the father's parents come and visit a few times a year, and they always stay in the house, and so it's like every time I go there for therapy I never know who I'm going to get, because so many of the family members live and luckily they're very well off and they have a very large house.

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That makes it easier, and so they can live sort of in separate sides of the house, but that's yeah super, I feel like super common in the Indian culture.

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It is very common, and I mean I have cousins and friends.

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It's like joint family system which you know.

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In many ways it's really good because it allows everybody to rely on each other.

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I mean there's a reason they say it takes a village, you know.

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So childcare or just doing stuff, managing things.

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Then they don't have to ask the man they're dating to pay for their childcare because it's built in.

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Yeah, but I think I'm a little bit nonconformist.

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I'm not your typical Indian person in general and I think I value my independence.

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I want to be close to people I care about, but also have space to do my own thing.

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So you're very successful.

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Tell us what you do.

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Oh, I wouldn't say it's super successful, but okay, yeah, so I'm a CEO of a healthcare year four startup.

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It's my second time around.

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I was co-founder CEO of a medical group that I started with my late brother and we grew it and exited and decided I wanted to jump back because I'm a glutton for punishment.

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So this is my second time trying to build a company and do something with it.

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So how do you juggle your career and dating?

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Do you find that difficult?

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It is, but I think I'm a little fortunate because you know I'm older and wiser and this is my second go around.

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So I try and not live to work.

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I try and work to live, and I have a lot of different interests and things that I like to do, so I try and take out time for what is important, and relationships are one of them smart.

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I think that's another difference between Americans and other countries.

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Here people are so consumed with work yes, yes, yes.

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That's what defines us, yes whereas other countries, like Europe, they close in the middle of the day for three hours for their siesta.

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Like they, they definitely.

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What is it?

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They work to live, yeah.

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Well, and I had made a comment in one of our previous episodes about like being productive Right, and all of the comments on social media were about work, work and finances, and I'm like there are so many other ways to be productive being physically productive, being mentally, you know, spiritually, emotionally, philanthropically productive, like there are so many ways to be productive in your life, but, as I think it is, as Americans, when we hear productivity, all we think about is work and finances, and it's there's like we as humans are so should be so much more well-rounded than that.

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We should, we should, we should.

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I mean it's not just an american thing like I grew up in india and there's a lot of pressure to succeed professionally and your identity is a lot of times tied to that and that puts a lot of pressure on families and kids.

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Like I didn't grow up particularly you know bright and getting the eight grades.

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I was off playing tennis and doing things, but the pathways were limited and it was always like, okay, if you don't do this one thing, then you are not successful.

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Which is kind of ironic because now you said I was successful and I've never really seen myself that way.

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I just kind of made my way through and got lucky he's humble ladies I think that is an important thing to be.

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You don't see too much of that these days so tell us about you.

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Let's get to know voresh.

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What are your hobbies?

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uh, okay, so I am an athlete I've always been, so tennis has been my first sporting love.

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Um how do you feel about pickleball, the new trend?

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oh, how much time do we have?

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Um, no, look, mean pickleball is is here to stay.

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I'm one of those tennis players.

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Typically, tennis players have like a love hate relationship with pickleball.

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They hate pickleball because it's you know, it's not really tennis, it's not a real sport kind of thing.

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It's taking over the court.

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Yes, that is.

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That is a legitimate concern because, you know, as it is, we don't have enough tennis courts and for for the people that love the game and I say that because I was part of the board of directors of USTA Southwest so we used to look at metrics like how many people are playing and how many courts do we have available.

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So that is a real thing.

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But, that said, I do think pickleball is fun.

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I do play it socially.

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I get the luxury that I'm a decent tennis player, so I automatically become a really good pickleball player.

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And people like, oh my god, how long have you been been playing?

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and I'm like this is my second time wow and then I'm like, wow, I'm like, yeah, I'm a tennis player, yeah, so, yeah, no, I, I really do enjoy it.

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I have friends that play and I'm actually interesting.

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Um, I just got something called an invitation to something called Founders League.

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It's a pickleball league that started in Texas a few years ago by like founders and CEOs and they just wanted to get together and shoot the shit and that's kind of evolved into a whole league over seven cities.

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So there's one starting in Scottsdale.

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So I met with the guy and I'll be playing in a league.

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Oh, wow, so yeah, that's exciting yeah, so tennis has been a big part of my life.

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Um, golf, love golf.

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Hardest sport, um, there is um, but I really enjoy it.

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There's nothing quite like hitting a really good golf shot and then trying to finish the round trying to replicate that as much as possible, which is the hardest thing to do so one of the new things now is like ladies going to golf courses to try to meet men, because men yeah, where I haven't seen any.

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That's what I was just gonna ask.

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You tell me, I'll set it up have you had any dating luck?

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On the golf course.

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What?

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about cart girls.

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Have you ever hit on a golf cart girl?

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I am not very good at hitting on people.

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It's weird.

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Have you ever hit on a golf cart girl?

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I am not very good at hitting on people.

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It's weird.

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No, you don't have a pickup line.

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I do not.

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I cringe at that.

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And it's just not my like that's.

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I think that's one of the reasons why I might be still single, because I find it really hard to approach a woman cold, Like I'm really good at having a conversation, but going up to a stranger and trying to break the ice is just, I just I don't know so let's say you're in a social setting and you see the most beautiful woman that you've ever seen before and you really want to talk to her do you?

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just not because you're too scared, or what do you do?

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How do you?

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What line do you use, or I don't?

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that's the thing if somebody introduces me, then I'm happy to have a conversation, or or, if the circumstance, if we're at the bar and we're ordering a similar drink, something to like organically open up a conversation.

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But if you're sitting across the bar from each other and you're just looking at her from across the bar, do you look?

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Do you look away?

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Do you not look?

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Do you look down?

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Yeah, I mean of course.

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Have you ever sent a drink?

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over.

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I have never sent a drink, no, maybe that's what you should do, and I actually, come to think of it, I don't really sit at bars alone.

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It's just.

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It's strange.

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I mean sometimes I will with a laptop or whatever, but nowadays it's so difficult.

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Back in the day I'm just aging myself here but back in the day, before cell phones, people would actually sit uh and actually engage in conversation across the table, but now it's so hard to break that digital barrier that is in front.

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I mean, it was maybe a month ago.

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I was at Postino's.

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I go there and hang out sometimes and you know, work or whatever.

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I didn't have my laptop, so I was just sitting there just people watching, and literally every single person at the bar was looking at their phone.

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I'm like, how am I supposed to break that barrier?

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Yes.

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So it's really difficult and I think that's common these days and that's probably why people don't meet as much organically is because there's just too many barriers and people are just jaded by their experiences.

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So what is your ideal type?

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Oh, I don't know if I have a type, but Okay, so I have this thing where I feel like there's four dimensions to compatibility or whatever.

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So there's physical, mental, uh, emotional and spiritual.

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So with that in mind, I think physically I would say somebody who's athletic I think I find intelligence attractive, someone who is independent Emotionally, somebody who is secure and emotionally vulnerable and open, because I feel like I am now.

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And then, spiritually, somebody who has got some perspective of life, because I've been through a lot and I find the depth that comes from people who have experienced things is at a different level.

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So if you get four of those shit, sign me up.

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But I'll be happy with two and a half.

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I was just going to say that.

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What's your minimum requirement?

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Two and a half out of four, okay.

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Three would be great.

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Do you have any embarrassing date stories or, okay, three would be great.

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Do you have any embarrassing date stories, or do you?

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have any crazy first dates.

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Yeah, I think you and I kind of briefly talked about that and I have an update on that.

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So the strangest one, which I've never experienced more than once, thank god was so I met this girl who was actually my Lyft driver.

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So this was a few years ago, before my last relationship.

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I was single, kind of doing my thing.

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I was going to meet some friends at the JW Marriott.

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There was apparently some sort of live band there.

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So you know, I'm feeling good and like I had a drink before I left, so I was feeling kind of loose.

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So I get in the Uber and this, this girl.

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It was dark so I didn't really get to see her too much, but she was like interesting and funny and she just moved into town and we started talking and then talking leads to flirting, so I end up, uh, uh, leaving the uber ride with her phone number and then she was going to a wedding in Florida or something for a few weeks.

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She came back, we connected, we end up going to this little um, we end up meeting at this place called white rabbit.

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It's a little um speakeasy down in gilbert and I was like man, she's probably not gonna show right, shows up on time.

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I'm like, wow, that's, I respect that in a like a beautiful black dress, like looking like.

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I'm like, damn, this is that girl.

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So I'm like I'm feeling pretty good.

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So we go inside have, start, have a couple of drinks and we're talking and we're laughing and we're just flirting and all that.

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I think.

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At one point I think we briefly kissed too.

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Maybe it must have been a memorable kiss.

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It was so dark, so this is what happened next.

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So she like excuses herself to go to the bathroom.

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I'm like cool, goes to the bathroom.

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A couple of minutes go by, I'm like la, la, la, you know, 10 minutes go by, 15 minutes go by.

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I'm like shit, I hope she's okay.

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So I end up going to the bathroom and there was a woman coming out and I'm like hey, is there a girl in there like with a black skirt and everything?

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And she and everything.

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And she's like no.

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So I'm like hang on what just happened here.

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So about 15 minutes later she sends me a text message saying I'm sorry, I had to leave, and that was it.

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That was it.

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Did you explain?

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what?

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No, she did not explain.

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She didn't explain, it just disappeared and I'm like did I completely misread that or what the heck happened?

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So, yeah, I got uh.

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I got uh, mid-date I don't know if there's a term for it never heard from her go, I mean ghosted kind of in real life.

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But is that really what ghost it is?

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ghosted is when, well, did you ever hear from her again?

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no, I mean I didn't reach out to her and I mean I said have a good life, kind of thing.

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But so she never explained what happened.

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I mean, maybe she had an upset stomach or she got sick.

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I don't know.

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But then why wouldn't you reach out?

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So you've never heard from her since.

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Nope.

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Wow, that is so bizarre.

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That is weird.

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And you know what's interesting, like I left, I was kind of feeling down on myself and it was like a little bit of a you know knock to my ego and I'm going home.

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I'm like shit, like is this what I have to deal?

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with You're like I can't even pick up an Uber driver.

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What's wrong with me?

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And I thought it was going gangbusters.

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But anyway, I was heading home and I just remember this, on the drive over and I was reading this book called Four Agreements, which I really love, and I was like, let's just keep that into perspective.

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So two of those agreements that it talks about is don't take anything personally and always do your best.

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And I was like, well, I did my best and I'm not going to take this personally, and that was that.

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So that was interesting.

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So here's the opposite of that.

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And this happened on Saturday.

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Oh gosh, I ended up doing the exact same thing to someone.

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What?

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But to be fair, she was out there, uh, and two, I, I explained myself, um, so it was.

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I met this woman on an app.

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So this is another reason why apps are doomed.

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I think it's just so transactional anyway.

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So, anyway, so I was like okay, what are you doing tonight?

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I want to meet up for a drink.

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I'm like, okay, so we end up meeting at the Beverly Beautiful woman like articulate speaks.

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Well, she was wearing this little necklace with a little crab on it.

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So I made the mistake of saying, oh, you're a cancer.

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And she, just like something clicked in her and I swear to you for the next two and a half hours and three drinks.

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She could not stop talking about astrology and she wanted to dissect everything about me and it just got to the point I'm like, just, is this like I'm happy to engage, but come on, take a breath Right?

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And then she goes to go to the restroom and she's like, hey, you don't mind if I do a bump, do you Like?

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Would you want to do one?

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I'm like this is a first date.

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Might as well just throw it all out.

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The table.

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I'm like, ok, you know, you do you, it's cool, I'm trying to be all cool about it.

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And then she goes to the restroom.

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Again, like 15 minutes go by, I'm like, no, this is not working.

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So I'm like you know what?

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I send her a message.

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I'm saying, look, I'm sorry, but this is not working.

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This is not what I wanted to have happen.

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And seems like you're pretty busy in the restroom, so I'm just gonna bounce, be safe, have a good evening.

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And then she texts me like an hour and a half later.

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She's like oh, oh, I'm so sorry I didn't you know.

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I'm sorry, I took so long.

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Can I come over?

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I'll make it up to you.

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Wow, I swear I'm not making this up, that's crazy.

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Yeah, it was weird, did you?

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pay the tab before you left though?

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Yeah, of course you did, I did.

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Yeah, Okay, you didn't leave along, because I don't like to leave my card open.

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But you know, yeah, how old was this woman?

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she said she was 31, but who the hell knows?

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wow, that's probably.

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That's probably why she felt like she could text you that she was like well, he liked me enough to pay for the date, so why don't I just uh?

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I don't know what was going on in?

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there, but it wasn't doing it for me, so yeah, so I guess full circle.

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But you know, it happens on the other side too, because we interviewed a woman last night and same thing happened to her.

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The guy went to the restroom and never came back.

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Really Mid-day, mid-dinner and left her with a tab Left her with a tab too, Wow.

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So it's not just you.

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It seems like it happens a lot.

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It does and this is why I think online dating is ridiculous.

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This is why there are so many single people out there nowadays.

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People just treat people so poorly.

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Why is that?

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Why is that that there are so many like I have so many really interesting, smart, funny, single women, friends who say they have so many single, interesting, smart men, single friends, but why is it that we can't find each?

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other.

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That's why we started this podcast, Gresh.

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That's why we're here.

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Bring them all together.

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Good karma.

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Yeah.

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So send us all your referrals.

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Send us all of your friends, absolutely.

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Bring them to the meat market.

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Are you ready for it?

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I'm ready for it.

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We help you keep more in your love life.

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Today's listener question comes to us from Delilah.

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She says my boyfriend is Jewish and I am so in love with him.

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His family are a little cold to me and I fear it is because they don't approve of me.

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They are all devout Jews and want him to marry someone in the same religion.

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I am not religious but I am spiritual.

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I'm not sure I could ever convert and it breaks my heart, but deep down I just don't think it's going to last.

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Am I wasting my time?

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wasn't there a show about this with Kristen Bell and Adam Brody?

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I don't know, I don't remember.

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Remember when he was Jewish.

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Oh, he was a rabbi.

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A rabbi, yes, and he fell in love with Kristen Bell.

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It was a comedy show.

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Yes.

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But she wasn't Jewish and he needed to.

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That's correct, that is correct.

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That's tough because I feel, like certain religions they really do want you to marry within their If there isn't a conversation about expectations, then how do you know whether you're expected to convert or not?

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Yeah.

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So it's like I think there needs to be like a family dinner.

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Well, I mean, I think the first conversation has to be with the man.

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Yes, for sure.

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Because family is one thing, but you have to know where your partner stands in this.

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And I mean, I'll be honest, that's.

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I was smiling when this question came up because I have had exactly the same experience.

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I'm not religious, I'm spiritual, I'm agnostic.

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I do believe there's a higher power, but I'm not a big fan of organized religion and my ex is extremely religious and we talked about it in the beginning and I was like, look, religion is a very personal thing.

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So you do, you.

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I respect that, as long as you can respect my viewpoint and it doesn't spill over into our life, right?

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Unfortunately, it does come in.

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So I think it's very important not just to have one static conversation about it, but keep keep probing that, because sometimes it will show up and I had that happen and that was one of the things that just caused me to question whether this person was mine or not.

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So I feel it's unfortunate because it's so hard to find love nowadays.

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It's so hard to find someone that you would want to spend the rest of your life with, and it's unfortunate because it's so hard to find love nowadays.

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It's so hard to find someone that you would want to spend the rest of your life with, and it's unfortunate that you do find someone and then religion kind of prevents you from being together, I know so.

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My guilty pleasure is 90 Day Fiance, and it's always, always, on every single season.

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There's always one or two women or men from the US that end up falling in love with, like a Muslim person.

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And it's always, they, always, they always end up breaking up, because the families cannot accept someone who is not, who won't convert you know, and so it's just like it's hard, that's hard.

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My brother had his heart broken one time in his life and my brother's such a good guy.

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What a lucky guy he treats women so well and he was dating this Mormon girl and he was so into her and he treated her so well, but she ended up breaking up with him because he wasn't Mormon, he wouldn't convert yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I mean I guess if the two people are completely aligned there, then there is strength to endure the family.

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But that's something you have to really know for sure before you go down that path so agreed.

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So now we're going to discuss an article from the new york times.

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It's about therapy and how therapy is becoming more common and acceptable in today's society.

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So did you know that az is consistently ranked the worst place to date in the entire country?

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That explains a lot.

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I was going to say I believe it.

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Which one's the best?

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I'm moving there Just kidding.

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So it's based on the high rate of romance scams, ghosting, high unemployment rate and lack of mental health providers.

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Interesting and it makes me sad because I remember when I gave birth to my two girls, my anxiety was off the roof and I'm like maybe I should go see someone, but no one would accept my, no one would accept insurance period.

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They're like we only take cash and that's hard a lot of people and it's expensive a lot of people.

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We have insurance for a reason to help us pay our bill, medical bills, and if they don't accept our insurance, a lot of people don't have hundreds of dollars for each session.

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So that's a big reason.

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Anyways, this article states that nowadays, dating comes with its own dictionary, a collection of buzzwords like breadcrumbing.

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Have you heard breadcrumbing?

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No, what is that so?

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it's like it's when someone, so it's when someone gives you just a little bit to keep you coming.

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So you're like Hansel and Gretel, picking up the breadcrumbs, chasing after the person.

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They don't give you, like their full on self, but they just leave a trail of breadcrumbs for you, leading you on without committing.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

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Ghosting you know what ghosting is.

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And then zombying have you heard what zombying is?

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Coming back from the dead.

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You know all these terms, yeah because zombies I have zombies come back all the time.

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I just I had a zombie come back.

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I had a guy that I hadn't spoken to in a year.

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Text me out of the blue, like a zombie, back from the dead, like two weeks ago.

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Is it because he just wants to hook up?

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Probably.

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What are you doing tonight, baby?

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So that's what it is Zombies, like somebody from your past coming back?

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Yes, yes, guilty, but in recent years psychology terms like love bombing, gaslighting and trauma bonding have also wedged their way into the lexicon.

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Dating apps are now offering prompts like therapy taught me blank, a boundary of mine is blank and my therapist say I would blank.

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People are asking what does connection look like to you?

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And around the third date they initiate discussions about their prospective partner's attachment style a tidy summation of childhood trauma.

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This terminology isn't unusual nowadays.

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Therapy-related words and phrases have trickled into workplaces, surfaced at schools and galvanized people online.

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In the 50s or even the 80s, it would be hard to imagine that saying I see my therapist regularly would have status.

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But now, taking care of one's mental health carries social currency in some fears.

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You see a therapist right and you say it's very, very helpful yep, it is, uh, in, it has been.

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Um, I was one of those, like I'm a gen xer, so, like you know, figuring your shit out, but, um, I do believe in it.

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In fact, I am pretty close to that field because we are implementing behavioral health in our primary care clinics Precisely for the reason that you mentioned.

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There is a lot of barriers to entry for access to behavioral health, right, so you have to pay a large copay and a lot of times therapists won't even accept insurance and their cash pay.

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So we're trying to figure out a way around it and really integrate it with the physical health component, because it is all one, right.

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For some reason, western medicine has this idea that, you know, physical medicine is distinct from mental medicine and spiritual or emotional medicine.

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But now there is more and more research that is coming out that we're all kind of one and having that behavioral and mental health component to it is so important.

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But, yes, personally I I think it it.

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It allows me to get out of my echo chamber.

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I think we all have our echo chambers, um, and our sort of conversations we have with ourselves that are often reaffirming of our own beliefs.

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So I think the biggest thing for me is to get a perspective outside of that echo chamber and then be able to reflect on it and maybe find some lessons.

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One of the points in that article that I thought was really interesting and I think it was more towards geared more towards women using it as as um, as an indicator of whether they wanted to go out with a man or not, is interesting you know, do you go to therapy?

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And if he says yes, it's an indication that he's financially stable, because therapy is so expensive.

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It's true and I never thought about that until I read that in the article and I was like wow, I was like that kind of is a point I guess,

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it's all about the money.

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He must have money.

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He sees a therapist.

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They see the dollar signs exactly.

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Well then it says like, instead of being like, I'm 5, 11 and I can bench press some large amounts, it's like now people are like I've grappled with the challenges of my childhood and I've thought deeply about my issues.

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Um, it says, now we're selling mental health.

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Um, a study asked participants to rank what they're looking for in a prospective partner, expecting the the usual answers sexual attractiveness, trustworthiness, humor, similar interests.

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But this time respondents wanted matches with emotional maturity and the ability to process and grapple with one's feelings.

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You still have to, though, get to know someone fairly well to see if that's true, because, you know, on a dating profile anybody can write oh yeah, I've, I'm healed, I've dealt with my childhood trauma, oh yeah.

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I see a counselor.

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I've worked on, I've done the work, you know anybody can say that, but it's like you have to really spend some significant time with someone to figure out if that really is the case or not.

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And you have to personally be willing to see yourself as flawed.

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Yes, and I have a lot of examples of people that do exactly that, where they're all about the mental health, but it's sometimes just it's the front.

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And there is some deep insecurity hiding behind that that they have not addressed, and unless you do that on your own personal level, it's all just a show, and then it just becomes a skin that you put out there along with whatever else you put as a skin to come out a certain way.

00:31:27.076 --> 00:31:29.297
So yeah, it's interesting, it's super interesting.

00:31:29.538 --> 00:31:30.119
A couple more things.

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It goes on to say that in the 60s and 70s, that's not what we were trying to sell.

00:31:33.576 --> 00:31:41.178
We were trying to sell intelligence, being fun, being creative, being career oriented.

00:31:41.178 --> 00:31:41.981
Now we're trying to sell mental health.

00:31:41.981 --> 00:31:45.615
A growing number of people now are broadcasting intimate, specific details, including proclamations, about their mental health.

00:31:45.615 --> 00:31:49.134
It's a technique used to both signal your values and to weed people out.

00:31:49.134 --> 00:31:56.997
If therapy is essential to you, for example, you might not want to date someone who's never been, how would you date someone that's never been to a therapist?

00:31:57.017 --> 00:32:00.030
yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, you know, everybody's got their own journey.

00:32:00.030 --> 00:32:05.590
Um, maybe some people are lucky and they're pretty emotionally well regulated by themselves.

00:32:05.590 --> 00:32:08.921
Um, but I'm not opposed to or against.

00:32:08.921 --> 00:32:18.836
But I will say, if somebody is vehemently against going to therapy, I think that is a limiting factor, um, because then you're not willing to grow and evolve.

00:32:18.836 --> 00:32:22.652
Um, and you know, I've been in long relationships and relationships don't stay static.

00:32:22.652 --> 00:32:32.940
You have to be willing to work at it and, you know, hear each other and speak to each other, which, surprisingly, becomes more difficult the more you get to know people, because we all have expectations of each other, right?

00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:33.823
Um?

00:32:33.823 --> 00:32:45.538
So if somebody is completely opposed to it, that I will, I don't need therapy, I'm, you know, then I'll be like we all do so and then it ends with by saying you know, therapy suggests that you've done the work.

00:32:45.638 --> 00:32:49.756
In other words, you're enlightened, you're the best version of yourself and you're ready to go.

00:32:51.159 --> 00:32:53.383
No, no not at all.

00:32:53.844 --> 00:33:00.280
Not at all so now it's time for the celebrity cut, where we marinate in the juices of the celebrity, and I want to talk about that movie, anora.

00:33:00.280 --> 00:33:09.656
That won like every single award, and it's a movie about a sex worker that falls in love with the son of a russian oligarchy and then his family's trying to break them off again.

00:33:09.656 --> 00:33:15.820
We're always talking about how now sex workers are becoming more, you know, common, it's less taboo.

00:33:15.820 --> 00:33:17.051
And that won the award.

00:33:17.051 --> 00:33:17.515
For what was it?

00:33:17.515 --> 00:33:22.394
Best picture, best actress, best screenplay, best director, best editing, like the list goes on they got a lot.

00:33:22.473 --> 00:33:23.256
Yep, have you seen it?

00:33:23.256 --> 00:33:24.198
I have not.

00:33:24.198 --> 00:33:28.759
I did see the oscars um, and I was like that is one of them.

00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:33.134
That and the brutalist I think are really good with the one that won with the I love him.

00:33:33.334 --> 00:33:35.880
I was gonna go see and then I saw it's like almost a four hour movie.

00:33:36.019 --> 00:33:36.882
Oh my gosh, oh, for real.

00:33:36.882 --> 00:33:37.663
Oh, my God.

00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:38.855
That's what happened with Anora.

00:33:38.855 --> 00:33:41.759
So this week after we talked about that, we were going to talk about this.

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.285
I actually I rented it off of Prime.

00:33:44.285 --> 00:33:44.950
You can rent it now.

00:33:44.950 --> 00:33:48.573
It took.

00:33:48.573 --> 00:33:52.174
Yeah, it's like Prime gives you 48 hours to watch it.

00:33:52.174 --> 00:33:59.101
It took me the entire 48 hours because I cannot watch a movie without falling asleep, but it was spicy.

00:33:59.101 --> 00:34:00.602
Ooh, it was like.

00:34:00.602 --> 00:34:08.266
I was like thank God I'm not watching this with my mother, Because it was like it was graphic.

00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:14.539
Like but it was, it's a great movie and apparently it was made with like a $35 million budget.

00:34:14.539 --> 00:34:15.362
Yes, which is bizarre.

00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:17.733
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah and it won everything.

00:34:17.793 --> 00:34:20.800
Yes, I I do haven't not seen it.

00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:31.487
I did see the substance and I think demi more did amazing oh no, no, I'm talking about anora you know, I know, but I'm like that was one category where I was hoping that demi more would have won, because was she good in that?

00:34:31.547 --> 00:34:31.748
I heard?

00:34:31.748 --> 00:34:32.791
That movie was terrible.

00:34:32.791 --> 00:34:33.233
Was it good?

00:34:33.293 --> 00:34:34.838
it's good it's dark, it's really dark.

00:34:34.838 --> 00:34:37.637
I mean depends on what you like isn't it kind of fakey though?

00:34:37.637 --> 00:34:47.710
I mean to a certain extent, but it also exposes a lot of like darkness stuff that I think we all struggle with, specifically loneliness and trying to fit in and all that stuff.

00:34:47.710 --> 00:34:51.253
So it's an interesting study into that and I like Demi Moore.

00:34:51.275 --> 00:34:52.076
I think she's beautiful.

00:34:52.076 --> 00:34:54.159
She's aged so well, she is so gorgeous.

00:34:58.092 --> 00:35:01.969
So where do you take someone on a first date?

00:35:01.969 --> 00:35:03.554
Somewhere low-key.

00:35:03.554 --> 00:35:07.222
I don't believe in doing like elaborate dinners on the first date.

00:35:07.222 --> 00:35:11.938
I also don't.

00:35:11.938 --> 00:35:13.768
I think it should be interactive.

00:35:16.490 --> 00:35:17.577
So one of my go-tos has been this place called Wonder.

00:35:17.597 --> 00:35:17.739
Spaces.00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:20.856


It's like an interactive art thingy and you walk around it.00:35:20.856 --> 00:35:25.521


You have conversation, you walk around where's that Old Town.00:35:25.521 --> 00:35:29.916


That's a good spot, don't they have different?00:35:29.976 --> 00:35:31.039


rooms with different stuff.00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:32.757


They do and they keep changing it.00:35:32.757 --> 00:35:42.742


That's why it's kind of nice to go back to, because they keep changing the installations, so they're like interactive art exhibit, if you will that, or just like a low-key.00:35:42.742 --> 00:35:50.193


I go to a hot yoga at the studio down in South Scottsdale and there's a little wine and beer place right next to it called Rift.00:35:50.193 --> 00:35:51.237


Shout out to Rift.00:35:51.237 --> 00:35:54.355


It's a good spot, it's casual.00:35:54.355 --> 00:35:55.338


Do you have a hot yoga university?00:35:55.338 --> 00:35:58.737


No, it's called Blue Buddha.00:35:58.737 --> 00:36:03.822


But Karen, who was the owner of hot yoga, she broke off and started this studio.00:36:03.909 --> 00:36:05.114


Yeah, she did years ago.00:36:05.114 --> 00:36:07.376


Okay, oh, I'll have to check it out then.00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:08.873


Yeah, it's like a small studio.00:36:08.873 --> 00:36:10.018


She owned it too.00:36:10.018 --> 00:36:11.635


Yep, just one studio.00:36:11.635 --> 00:36:18.518


Some of the classes get a little too busy and I don't like that because it's hot yoga, but otherwise the community school.00:36:18.518 --> 00:36:19.740


They have a little coffee shop there.00:36:19.740 --> 00:36:20.813


It's neat, it's a good vibe.00:36:21.255 --> 00:36:25.510


Yeah, so one of those do you have a unique talent or something that you don't tell many people?00:36:27.114 --> 00:36:32.663


a unique talent or secret or I'm a pretty good dancer does that count?00:36:33.204 --> 00:36:34.413


what kind of dancing like I?00:36:34.452 --> 00:36:35.556


like Latin Really.00:36:35.556 --> 00:36:36.099


I think I was.00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:47.637


I think I am somewhere Latin American somewhere, because love the music, love the food, love the dance, love the women, so yeah, Now it's time for the juiciest segment of the show the meat grab.00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:48.400


The meat grab.00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.501


Are you down for the challenge?00:37:03.369 --> 00:37:04.112


up for the grab link to share.00:37:04.112 --> 00:37:04.554


Pick one if you dare.00:37:04.554 --> 00:37:05.418


Some are innocent, some are not so innocent.00:37:05.438 --> 00:37:06.021


Okay, what am I supposed to do?00:37:06.041 --> 00:37:07.829


yeah, read the question oh shit, okay, would you be open to a polyamorous relationship?00:37:07.829 --> 00:37:12.778


Wow, uh, maybe.00:37:12.778 --> 00:37:15.625


I mean, I have never been in that situation.00:37:15.625 --> 00:37:19.755


I do have a friend that was in an em relationship, which I thought was kind of interesting what is that?00:37:19.755 --> 00:37:21.699


So ethical non-monogamy, so it's.00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:35.036


It's not polyamorous, where it's like a group but each of the partners has one other person outside of the relationship, but it's emotional monogamy.00:37:35.036 --> 00:37:38.664


So the two partners are the core, that's it.00:37:42.750 --> 00:37:43.893


And then you just find interesting things outside of that.00:37:43.893 --> 00:37:46.438


Is it because they're not compatible sexually with each other?00:37:46.699 --> 00:37:53.027


No, yeah, they just feel like it's too one-dimensional to be completely monogamous for your whole life.00:37:53.027 --> 00:37:55.414


Okay, and I think that's an interesting perspective.00:37:55.414 --> 00:37:55.635


It is.00:37:55.635 --> 00:37:56.135


So I'm not.00:37:56.135 --> 00:38:02.717


Yeah, I'm certainly not square, so I'm not opposed to it, but I've never been in that situation.00:38:02.717 --> 00:38:03.583


But I guess that's official now.00:38:03.583 --> 00:38:04.389


I would be open to it.00:38:05.070 --> 00:38:08.510


Don't they say that monogamy is created by society?00:38:08.510 --> 00:38:10.251


Like we're not supposed to be monogamous.00:38:11.132 --> 00:38:11.954


Yeah, yeah.00:38:12.574 --> 00:38:16.458


And you say you know the happiest couples that you know aren't monogamous.00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.184


Yeah, yeah, I have a couple of friends that are in similar like emotional or what did you call it?00:38:21.184 --> 00:38:22.525


Emotional, not emotional.00:38:22.565 --> 00:38:22.626


E&M.00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:30.550


E&M yeah, that are in situations that are in relationships like that, and they've been married for my one, friends have been married for 10 years.00:38:30.550 --> 00:38:34.657


They're celebrating their 10-year wedding anniversary and they've been together for 15.00:38:34.657 --> 00:38:37.342


And that's, I mean that's always sad.00:38:37.503 --> 00:38:38.384


It's fascinating to me.00:38:38.384 --> 00:38:48.920


I mean, obviously you have to be really, really emotionally mature to be able to handle something like that, but if you are able to, with therapy and whatnot, then you know why not.00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:49.981


And communication.00:38:49.981 --> 00:38:51.083


I think that's the other thing.00:38:51.083 --> 00:38:56.463


Oh, 100%, not just emotional maturity, but you have to know how to communicate with your partner.00:38:56.463 --> 00:38:57.856


I don't want to know the details, though.00:38:57.856 --> 00:39:01.880


I'm happy not knowing the intimate details of whatever Right exactly.00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.045


I wouldn't want to know details what I don't know can't hurt me, but no, with the monogamy thing.00:39:07.065 --> 00:39:13.563


It's interesting because I was reading some article somewhere, because back in the day our life expectancy was 45, right?00:39:13.563 --> 00:39:17.811


So you get married at about 20, you have kiddos and you're done by 45.00:39:17.811 --> 00:39:19.134


Now we're living to 90 plus.00:39:19.134 --> 00:39:23.163


So imagine being with someone for 60, 70, 80 years of your life.00:39:23.163 --> 00:39:27.320


That's a long time, yeah, especially in today's add culture.00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:30.911


So yeah, I have a friend that he's married and they're.00:39:30.911 --> 00:39:36.128


They have an open marriage and they're on a swingers cruise now and I see their pictures and it looks so much fun.00:39:36.128 --> 00:39:37.813


You know they're having like the time of their life.00:39:37.853 --> 00:39:39.838


So, to each their own, to each their own.00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.001


And they're super happy.00:39:41.001 --> 00:39:42.269


Different strokes for different folks.00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:43.501


So if you met the right person.00:39:43.501 --> 00:39:46.132


If you met the right two girls, you would be in a polyamorous relationship.00:39:46.132 --> 00:39:46.793


You're open to it.00:39:47.253 --> 00:39:50.679


Yeah, I mean, I said it on air so I guess I am but thank you.00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:57.530


I'll report back.00:39:58.251 --> 00:40:02.795


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Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.00:40:27.978 --> 00:40:30.003


He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.00:40:37.409 --> 00:40:39.275


So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.00:40:39.275 --> 00:40:39.916


His wife just reached out to me.