March 26, 2025

Ghosted… Literally: Dating After Death Gone Wrong 👻

Princeton’s story is wild!! Abuse, addiction, gangs, and a whole lot of masks just to survive. Married at 21, hoping to build the family he never had, he quickly realized trauma plus a wounded partner = disaster.

Rock bottom hit hard at 23 when he put a gun to his head and it misfired. That miracle moment flipped a switch. “You’re not where you are because of what happened you’re where you are because of how you respond.”

He quit drugs cold turkey, locked himself away for a year of spiritual study, and turned his life around. Now, after five years as a minister, he helps others heal and find their true selves.

Princeton’s looking for someone grounded, self-aware, and ready to build something real. From rock bottom to redemption, this story’s got it all. Hit play and get inspired! 😎🔥

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00:00 - Introducing Princeton's Journey

01:30 - From Abuse to Awakening

04:44 - The Suicide Attempt That Changed Everything

10:15 - Finding Purpose Through Love

15:40 - Lessons From Failed Relationships

23:30 - Dating in the Modern World

30:36 - Neo's Polyamorous Lifestyle

37:55 - The Meat Grab Challenge

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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.

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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.

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Welcome to the Meat Market.

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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Princeton.

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Welcome.

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Thanks for being here.

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Thank you for having me.

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So you have a very heartbreaking, rough upbringing and childhood that did end with a happy ending, but tell us about your journey and how you took your life from a negative to a positive.

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Like Pitbull, I like that.

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You want to dance for a moment?

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She's seen Pitbull.

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I love it, I love it, I love it.

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So, yeah, I mean, I have a story, like many of you out there, um, growing up abused, molested, struggled with deep depression, medicated Cause I was quote unquote hyper ADHD.

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You know all the stuff, the labels, and I went through a lot as a kid and though it's a long story, I'm grateful for all of it because, you know, it led me on a path of transformation or, as I say now, evolution, and I realized that everything that happened to me actually happened for me.

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But it eventually led me through.

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You know the story of gangs and drugs and you know, really just living a promiscuous lifestyle.

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I was so disconnected from myself because early on in my life I learned how to wear masks really well, and so I fragmented this persona that you know the world knew as Princeton.

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My mom, my friends, my girlfriends, whoever everybody saw a different mask.

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But it wasn't until, you know, I got married at the age of 21.

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And I don't know how much of the story you guys want.

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It's a long one, so I'm trying to condense it right now.

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But after a while just living a very reckless lifestyle, gang related activity, selling drugs, using drugs, alcoholic before the age of 21.

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I got married at the age of 21, thinking, you know, I'm going to give my family, I want to get married, I want to have kids.

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I've always been a relationship person.

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I've always wanted a family, because I grew up in a big family.

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But I say, like a lot of people, I went into it for the wrong reasons, you know, because it was kind of selfish, like I want to go in and I want to give my family something I've never experienced, you know.

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And now, looking back on it, it's like dang, like that's crazy.

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But that's what a lot of us do.

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We jump into things because we really want to create a new experience, but we don't take time to slow down and really, you know, observe within ourselves.

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If we're even prepared to create that experience, either with ourselves or for our children, or with a significant other, what have you?

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But after three years of being married, we had a huge trauma bond and, of course, that's another hindsight, 2020 type situation.

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But her father committed suicide when she was 11.

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And I went through molestation and abuse when I was 11, so there was just a lot there.

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But all of that, as you can imagine, came to a head when you have two people who've experienced a lot of trauma, never really known themselves, never really met themselves, very good at masking, come under one roof and now we're in each other's space every single day.

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And all of that stuff, combined over three years, just led me to a point.

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I had two kids at the time, one on the way, 23, going on 24.

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And I just felt like I was worthless, like what's the point?

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You know my kids will be better off without me.

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You know she'll be better off without me.

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My family won't have to worry about me anymore.

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I'm just tired and it sounds crazy.

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But that night, you know, I decided to take my life and I had such a sense of peace really it was such a sense of peace, like, even though I was feeling all of these things as I'm thinking through how much better everybody else is gonna be when I'm gone.

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It gave me peace, and so I'm sitting there my guns in the seat and I just pick my gun up one breath, put the gun to my head and pull the trigger and the gun misfired, yeah oh my god, it misfired yeah how did you react to that?

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well, it felt like from the top of my head you know, when you get really angry and your ears and face get really hot from the top of my head all the way to the bottoms of my feet, everything got hot.

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And I'm sitting in my car and just thinking on like what just happened, and I don't know how long I sat there, you know, but it was like it really is true, like your entire life, in a sense, flashes before your eyes.

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You're thinking about everything that has happened, everything.

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Because at that point I'm like I just tried to take my life and you won't even let me leave, like what am I supposed to do?

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And I remember this epiphany dropped in and I couldn't articulate it this way then, but this epiphany dropped in and it was you aren't where you are because of what happened to you.

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You're where you are because of how you chose to respond to it.

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And that's smart, yeah.

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And that one revelation changed my life, because I looked at my life and I said you know well, if I could create the mess of a life that I don't love by living like I don't give a damn, how much more of a life can I create if I truly start living Like I love myself, because, even taking my life, I wasn't doing that for me, I was doing it for everybody else.

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You were thinking they'd all be better off without me, you weren't thinking you know, yeah, what's going on in my life causing me to feel like this?

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I gotten so used to wearing the masks that you know when you were.

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When you get used to wearing masks, you don't realize that you're living to perform for the world.

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You're doing everything for everyone, no matter what your words are, and so even in that moment, it was a mask.

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So what changes did you make, going, moving forward?

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Oh, that week it was a powerful change, I say I went through a huge conscious awakening at that point in my life.

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I quit drinking cold turkey.

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I quit using drugs cold turkey.

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Like right away.

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Right away that week, wow.

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And I just isolated myself for over a year and, growing up in the Bible Belt of Virginia it was.

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I didn't know what was happening.

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It was such a powerful shift in my life Literally it's like waking up one day, looking in the mirror and I didn't see Princeton anymore.

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It was like this blank slate in front of me and there was nothing but air and opportunity, like, literally, when people talk about rock bottom and only being able to look up.

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That's where I was, and so I said you know well, if I'm going to build up, I can't repeat what just happened.

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And so I isolated for a year, dove back into the Bible and really I was seeking other people who had had experiences like that.

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I wasn't seeking religion, I was seeking because that was the only avenue that I knew at the time other people who had had spiritual experiences that were like mine, where they went through these powerful shifts in their life and it led them to find purpose.

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And as I started studying all those stories, what really shifted my life was when I got into the New Testament and I'm studying in the story of Jesus and you know, at one point he's hanging on the cross after being beaten beyond recognition, going through pain that I could never even imagine.

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You know flesh torn from his body, nails, nails.

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You know he's nailed to the cross and he's looking out over people and he says forgive them, for they know not what they do.

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And I remember reading that and I broke down in the tears and I said teach me to love like that, because if I can't love like that, I don't want to live.

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And so from that day, like I was so hungry and there was such a deep state of urgency, I always say I'm not a I'm not a quote-unquote title, a Christian or a name or a religion.

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Love is my religion, if I put it on anything, because from that day I started looking at every challenge, every obstacle, everything as an opportunity to love, whether it's loving myself, giving gratitude and love for my life or different situations, because I really wanted to know that love and it transformed everything in my life.

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How did it change your relationship with your wife at the time?

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Because you said her father had committed suicide?

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Yeah so how did your suicide attempt?

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You sort of probably re-triggered some of her trauma as well.

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So is that sort of when that relationship started to falter?

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Well, you know, in the beginning I didn't tell everybody that I tried to kill myself.

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Okay, that didn't come out till much later, you know they knew that I had an experience, but that was it.

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But you know, what was triggering and what made it difficult after my life changed was her father was an elder in a church and this was a man that would walk miles in the snow to help someone in need, you know, give you the shirt off his back and he ended up taking his own life.

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So, even with my life changing, I went back to school, got a bachelor's in biblical studies, eastern religion, and got into ministry.

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I was in ministry and pastoring for five years before stepping down and entering into the work that I do now.

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And even through all of those changes, I could see the struggle that she had, trusting that the change was real or that it meant anything, because the man she loved the most, her best friend, was gone and he took the same path, you know.

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And so there was a lot of grace given on my behalf through a lot of that and also taking accountability, you know, for the fact that in many cases I had let her wear the pants, you know it's.

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I had become very passive, aggressive in my own home, and so when I started growing and I started changing, I started taking on the mantle of what it means to be a whole man, not just a man, you know, this is my home type of man, you know, but a whole man.

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It was very hard to transition because she came from a family of very strong masculine women who ran the house yeah, and still very much so that way, but that was really challenging.

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And then coming out of gangs and drugs and all that stuff, trying to find a good job, because most of my job growing up in the country, every job, is like a temp job you know.

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And so you go to this job and in that job and it just looks like you have a terrible work history.

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So trying to get a good job when it does come available is very difficult.

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So that was a battle.

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Finances hit us hard, you know, know, during that time.

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But I had a vision, you know.

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I knew that with every one thing that I had experienced, there was at least a million people out there experiencing just one of those things.

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And if I could evolve, if I could grow, if I could transform, regardless of what happened with us, everything that I would learn from that point would simply be a light into someone else's life.

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And so I just stuck to the journey.

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And here we are everything happens for a reason.

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I'm a believer, you know think of how many people you have helped in your journey since you know, so when did you get divorced?

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How many years ago?

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that was 2011.

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Okay, we moved here 2010 and you know, initially that's another story.

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Initially I was moving here alone because I was at a point I was like you know, we, we're going separate ways.

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I probably knew five years before I actually made that decision that it was over, but I always said, you know, I'm getting married.

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Once, like I never wanted to see a broken family, but it took me getting to a point where I realized my kids were already living in a broken home and or an unaligned home, as I say now.

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You know, we just weren't in alignment anymore.

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We were going in two completely different directions and the last conversation we had, 2011, was I love you enough to let you go?

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Because I don't want to wake up, you know, 65, 70 years from now, wondering what the hell we did with our lives Because we settled due to circumstance.

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Yeah.

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And so, yeah, that's when it happened 2011.

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And so, yeah, that's when it happened 2011.

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And so have you dated much since.

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Well, after her I was single for three years and I would go out and stuff.

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But I really spent a lot of time to myself during that three year period because one thing that I came to realize was, after my separation, I knew who Princeton was as a husband.

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I knew who he was as a father and what I wanted to create for my family.

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I knew what my vision was and what I wanted to create.

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But I didn't know Princeton as a single man on his own as an adult, because I got married as a kid basically no real life experience except for the traumas and the dramas I had experienced.

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And so I took that time to really start meeting myself again.

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And it was difficult because talk about separation, anxiety like that started coming up.

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I hadn't smoked or drink anything in over eight years.

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I started smoking and drinking again to mask it and I remember the day sitting in my condo thinking I never want to feel this pain again.

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And that lasted for a few months and I was like this isn't who I am, it's not who I am.

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And so for three years I just got back into my studies because I was speaking and teaching, you know, hosting workshops and doing all that stuff prior to moving out here.

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But I hit pause on all of that after my separation because I have a level of integrity with the work that I do that says, if I'm not living it, I'm not going to teach it, or if I'm experiencing something that I need to do the work through, I don't want to put my energy in front of people, because to engage people and work with people is a very sacred space and I don't take that lightly.

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And so I spent three years on that.

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And then I met my youngest daughter's mom, kirsten, and we were together for nine years and we broke up for maybe two years in that time, but we still lived together.

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We were roommates, you know.

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So we were really, we were still really close.

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But go ahead why did that relationship end?

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that relationship in ended because, well, number one, she was eight years younger than me.

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She had really just started growing in the beginning, when we first met, and there was just this.

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I'll admit it, I had this savior complex, you know, because I felt like I could fix in this relationship what I couldn't in my last relationship and I think a lot of us do that, you know, when we've experienced something or what I say when we've experienced true love or the love we thought we lost.

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You know we try to kind of reclaim that in a way in the next relationship.

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But there was a lot of growth really early on, and she lived in Seattle at the time, so for four months of our relationship we didn't even see each other other than FaceTime and talking on the phone, and so we built a really solid friendship in the beginning and then she moved out here and then, of course, the face-to-face this is how they are in person and I realized, okay, we're still in two completely different places.

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And at one point in the beginning of the relationship I said you know, we should take a step back and reevaluate where we are not saying we shouldn't be together.

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But it's like every time I would say that to her it was like I moved my whole life out here but I'm like I'm not saying not be together, I'm saying take a responsible step back and let's evaluate it.

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And it was just this.

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We were butting heads at that moment and I just kind of I remember saying okay, well, let's do it your way.

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And if it doesn't work when you finally get ready to do the work, I'm not going to trust it.

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Because she told me.

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She said I don't want to focus, I'm trying to reestablish myself, because she was a salon owner in Seattle and so she was trying to reestablish her business out here.

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She was like I just need to focus on this right now.

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And I knew that if we put any part of our relationship on the back burner because of what I'd already experienced, then it only takes a little bit of time for the separation to start happening.

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And I said if you want to wait until things are comfortable to start focusing on the work when you finally feel comfortable enough to do it, I'm not going to trust it.

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You finally feel comfortable enough to do it, I'm not going to trust it.

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And it was my fault because I and I take full responsibility of everything that happened in that relationship as the man.

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Because as the man I am the foundation, I'm the infrastructure.

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I should be the stability that gives her the peace.

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So when she comes in, she already has a foundation to stand on, even if she needs to put some things down, and I don't have room to complain about that, and so we literally had a hour and a half conversation the other night.

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Like I said, we're still friends, but that happened.

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And then, of course, the space ended up kind of fluctuating between us.

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And then now I'm looking outside of the relationship, where there's no intimacy.

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I don't trust it.

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But we're still in it, cause now I'm still rebuilding my stuff.

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We're both entrepreneurs, so finances are really tight.

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So now I feel trapped and every day I go home it's like looking in the mirror of everything that I hate and don't want in my life.

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At the time, but I was the one that was passive, aggressive.

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I was the one that didn't say, okay, this isn't healthy.

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I was coaching couples, you know, prior to, you know stopping coaching after my separation.

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But during that time, you know, we kept growing, we kept growing and then we broke up, got back together, and then it just got to a point similar to my wife, where it was just like, okay, and it's clear that we're just in two completely different places.

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I was so focused on doing the work and evolving that I got to a point I said I can't keep stopping, like I can't allow that.

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As much as I love you, you know I can't and it was a mutual decision.

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You know she was like.

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You know, I'm just in a space where I just really just need to focus on me.

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So now, what are you looking for in a relationship?

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Are you looking to get married again?

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Oh, I definitely want to get married again.

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And what have you learned from your, from your two relationships, like?

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What are your biggest lessons in what you're?

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looking for going forward all right.

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So typically I give a blanket statement.

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It's not really a soft one but I say, you know my first relationship, I learned unconditional love.

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In my second relationship I learned self-love.

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But in my second relationship I learned so much more than that, you know, because I learned the responsibility of a man, because having you know the circumstances of being a father, having the title and the roles and being married, I feel like it was kind of deceptive in a way, you know, but being in a relationship where none of that was locking you in or binding, and then being able to look back on that and doing the healing work myself, it's like wait a minute, like we look at this word responsibility and this is something I was telling her the other night.

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I said it is a privilege as a man to have the responsibility to build a foundation for my family and those that I love that protects them and keeps them safe.

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And for a while, because everything was a challenge and everything was a struggle, it was, I felt like everything was a fight, you know, and so it didn't feel like a great thing, you know, to have this responsibility.

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The weight of the man, you know, the weight of the world on the man, you know.

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And but now I'm just like what a, what a gift.

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You know what a gift I've been given to be a conscious man in this world, and that's probably one of the greatest things I've learned is just the power and purpose of response and the responsibility and the role of being a conscious man do you have?

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do you have deal breakers?

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I would say just going to ask that Were you, I know.

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I would say my deal breaker I try not to put expectations on anyone, but I would say my deal breaker is anyone who really isn't on their journey, who doesn't put personal, professional, spiritual development at the forefront, who doesn't have some sort of practice that takes them deeper, keeps them grounded, and someone who doesn't have a vision for themselves.

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Because I say, if you have a vision for yourself and you have a practice that is growing you and evolving you every single day, everything else is trivial.

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As a man, because I'm going to create structure and foundation, I have a vision.

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So now, from here, it's just a matter of is it in alignment with what I am creating?

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Because when you come into a union, second thing that is really important to me is are you capable of seeing a us, we and our, not a me, my and I?

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I like that.

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There can be no ego.

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So if you come into it me, my you know this is mine and me and I'm going to do this my no, we're not going to work.

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But if you can come into it saying you know, this is what I'm working on and this has been my vision up until this point, but I'd like to create something with a partner and this is what that looks like.

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Then, as a man, as the infrastructure, I can say, okay, this is what I see, how this aligned.

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I see the potential of building a partnership, because anybody can have a situation, ship, a relationship true.

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So, speaking of partners, what is your ideal partner?

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describe her loving, compassionate, open, vulnerable, I'd say.

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My ideal partner mirrors me in a lot of ways, do you have a physical, physical time.

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I was going to ask this.

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On the same wavelength today.

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I know sitting on the same couch we're like giving each other our brain waves.

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I'd say someone who is fit, you know, who takes care of themselves, because that tells me the integrity that you have with yourself.

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And that doesn't mean you have to walk around looking like a supermodel, an Instagram girl, no, like just someone that you take care of yourself, you know, you, you, yeah, I don't.

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Speaking of which, that's a perfect segue into give me more, give me more.

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You ready for it?

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I'm ready for it.

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This week's question I need help before I become the villain in my own love story.

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My boyfriend is great, sweet, funny and treats me well, but there is one tiny problem.

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I cannot stand the way he chews.

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It's like a symphony of chaos.

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Every time we eat, no matter how much I try to ignore it, I find myself fantasizing about throwing his dinner out the window.

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I I know breaking up over chewing sounds ridiculous, but if I have to endure one more bowl of cereal, I I might actually lose it.

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Am I overreacting, or is this a legitimate reason to call it quits?

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Do you think that there's something else going on and she's looking for reasons?

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I don't know.

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And also, how long have you been dating the guy?

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Because it's like if something like that like for me anyway, something like that would give me the ick on the first date and I would never agree to a second date.

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So it's like how?

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long she's got the ick and I feel like once you get the ick you can't get rid of it.

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No, you can't, I can't from my past.

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Anyways, once I got the ick I knew that was the end.

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It was over.

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Yeah, what do you?

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What do you think?

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uh, yeah, I, I'm a very observant person when I meet someone.

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So, yeah, there's anything like that in the beginning, because chewing, yeah, yeah, that's one of those things that is kind of a turn off.

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Well, and I'm a teeth person, like I like teeth, like bad teeth, like you can be perfect in every way, but if you have bad teeth, that's a huge turn off for me, and so I wouldn't be able to do a loud chewer.

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Yeah, I'm wondering if she can talk to him about it and try to get him to change and then, if he doesn't, maybe pull the plug, but I feel like if he does stop doing that, she's gonna find something else.

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I think so too.

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I feel like that's not it.

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Yeah, I feel like there's something deeper to this yeah, probably I don't.

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We don't have enough information to really give good advice so now we're going to discuss an article from the bbc basically why it's harder to find love nowadays.

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So it says that finding and keeping love today is harder than it has ever been at in human history.

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One reason is that we have more variations of what is considered an acceptable relationship.

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You can be monogamous in a polyamorous relationship, living together, living apart.

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There's just so many acceptable forms that it makes finding considered an acceptable relationship.

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You can be monogamous in a polyamorous relationship, living together, living apart.

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There's just so many acceptable forms that it makes finding the partner to match your end goal more challenging.

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And then it says I found this extremely interesting and very true we demand more from our partner than ever before.

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Formerly, in the past, it was someone that wanted kids and someone that could give you security, or someone that could tend to the farm.

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Right Now, think of how many boxes people want checked.

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They want.

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You know we're searching for everything out of our partner.

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Now.

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We want them to be our intellectual equal.

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We want them to be the CEO of the business that we launch.

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We want them to be a great co-parent.

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We want them to be a phenomenal sex partner, don't you agree?

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Now people are just a little more picky and demanding and expecting more right, whereas in the olden days I feel like a woman just wanted security and kids.

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Yeah, someone to cook dinner for.

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Then it says.

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A lot of people are feeling overwhelmed by the opportunities of meeting new people.

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We fool ourselves into the paradox of choice.

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We believe that we have endless options but in actuality, if you download 100 dating apps, how many dates could you actually get out of that?

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It's kind of true we think we have all these choices out there, but really you could find millions of profiles online, but how many would you really want to go on a date with?

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Yeah, have you done the apps?

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Have you been using the apps for dating?

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I can't stand the apps.

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I've used them just because I don't go out a lot and I'm just not really fond.

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I'm old school, like I want to meet someone face to face.

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Yeah, the old fashioned way, yeah.

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And do you find I feel like with the apps too, people can be like going back to that whole, like different types of relationships?

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People can be anything they want to be behind the apps.

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So it's like you run into all these.

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You know crazy things and things people are looking for that are totally outside the box and how many of the apps are fake, there are so many like you said, bots or OnlyFans models or romance scammers out there just trying to get money.

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I feel like a lot of them aren't even real.

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Then it says how many marriages nowadays have a low satisfaction rate, as there's um people believe that the grass is always greener.

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It's true, there's so many women on instagram, a lot of men, I feel think that there's someone better out there.

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We also have a lot more knowledge, so you can take an assessment of attachment style online, for example, and figure out whether or not you or your partner are paired in a strong way.

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This creates doubts about the relationship.

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You know, people do think the grass is always greener and they can be happier somewhere else.

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What's that expression?

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but it's not greener, you just have to water your own grass concentrate on what you have, not what you could have or what potentially is out there, and I know a lot of people that have ended their marriage or their relationship thinking they're gonna find something else better and they don't.

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And then they want to go back because they realize what a crappy situation it is to be single nowadays, you know.

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And then, lastly, it says that you know there are good and bad ways to present yourself on the dating apps, according to research, and there are a lot of mistakes that people make, which we talked about on the last episode.

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You have to be honest about what you want and what you're looking for.

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And then also, another big problem is the photos nowadays are atrocious.

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We all think we look like we did when we were 10 years ago when we took that picture, but we do not.

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So they don't think they're catfishing, but they actually are catfishing.

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It's really important that you put a recent picture on there.

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Then it says you should include some beige flags.

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I love this.

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Beige flags are things that some people may perceive as quirky, but you should own them.

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The author says one beige flag he has is that he likes to play Dungeons and Dragons, and a lot of people might make fun of him for this, but there are those few people that are going to love it, and the fact that he owns that and is confident about it, I think that's pretty great.

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I don't know what my beige flag would be.

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What would your beige flag be?

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Do you have anything off the top of your head?

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Ah no.

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I don't know either.

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I have to put some thought into that.

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I know Mine's probably that I am a perfectionist.

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Yeah.

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I've seen that A little bit, yeah, a little bit, yeah.

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Everything has to be like just so, and everything has to be like in its place and just everything has to be just right, like and I can always do everything.

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I'm terrible at delegating, so like I always feel like I can always do things myself better than and so it's like I need to like give up my control.

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Sometimes I think that's my beige flag.

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I think mine could be.

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I'm a very passionate person and I don't really show that, even on my social media, because I try to stay very professional.

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I'm not trying because a lot of my clients are women and so I'd say 90 of my clients are women and so I have to be very careful of how I project myself or show myself online.

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But I'm a very passionate, funny person and to me that space is very sacred.

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Like I'll be your biggest cheerleader.

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I'm a clown, I'll chase you through the house Like I like doing crazy stuff.

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But yeah, I don't show that a lot on my profile.

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It's usually just me chilling.

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It's common.

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The last thing it says here, which is interesting is studies have found that the number one determinant as to whether or not they want a second date is whether they feel comfortable being themselves with their partner.

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It's the big generational differences in dating, you know, in previous generations, I guess physical attraction now is number two.

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But it's not number one now.

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In the past physical attraction was number one.

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That's not number one anymore.

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I will say one generational difference I've noticed is I grew up in the time when your phone was attached to the wall.

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It had a rotary dial and a like.

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You couldn't go far and you had to make sure that no one else was using like and you waited.

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Like you waited days for a guy to call you.

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Like you would run home after school, like, hoping that the boy that you liked would call you after school that day, and, like we, you would talk on the phone, whereas now everything is text message, it's messaging and it's sending photos and it's I, I, I just I like.

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I still like to talk on the phone.

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I still like to like engage in real conversation and and be able to talk about things in person rather than have the these virtual relationships.

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That is like I don't know.

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That's one like big generational difference that I notice.

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But I think it can be for the positive too.

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Like I met my husband online but we were talking for about two or three weeks because he was traveling.

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So we really got to know each other over text.

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So when I met him in person for the first time I felt like I already knew him and he was already my best friend, you know.

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But I will say to that, like I feel what you're feeling, because there was just something about when that call.

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Finally, came.

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Yes, and I was also a letter guy like I would write.

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I was the four pagepage love letter, jodeci like Jagged.

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Edge, that was me, that's hilarious yeah, you know, genuine, like yeah, I was that person and I miss that.

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You know, I miss meeting someone and the effort you actually had to put in to get to know them.

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And because you couldn't just, you know, hop in someone else's DM or, you know, have your eyes looking in hundreds or thousands of different directions.

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It meant something when you met someone.

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Yeah.

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Even if they weren't everything you wanted, it's like because of that time, you invested it.

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You grew in that attraction.

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There wasn't again.

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Endless options, seemingly endless options, I should say, because they're not all, obviously, like viable options, but it seems like they're.

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And then the access like we have access to each other a hundred percent of the time now, whereas, like like you said, back in the day, it was like you would wait.

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You would sit there and wait for that phone call and it was so exciting Like I would.

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I remember when, when, when we first got a cordless phone and I would run home from school because I was the oldest child I would run home from school to beat my brothers and I'd grab the cordless phone and I would take it up to my bedroom and I would slam the door and I would hoard the cordless phone in my room so that I could answer the phone when it rang you weren't as bad as I was, though.

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We had a phone jack, so we had a basement in our house.

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We had a phone jack downstairs, so at a certain time I couldn't talk on the phone.

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So you know what I did.

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I went and bought myself a phone.

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I drilled a hole in the basement floor to my bedroom and took a cordless.

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I had my own phone in my room.

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That's amazing, actually, the length I had to get creative, see, and that's the thing, the lengths that we would go to back then to date and to meet people and to impress, you know, the person that you're courting, the person that you're, you know, going after.

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It's just like you think about that and now it's just like all you have to do is send a DM.

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Yeah, I remember getting thrills to check the mail.

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Now it's like a chore because it's all spam, but I remember getting because I loved writing letters as well and loved receiving them and it gives you that joy.

00:32:22.819 --> 00:32:35.771
I'm pen pals with my 8-year-old niece and the last letter that she sent me it had my address, obviously on one side, but then on the other side it said something like open now, this is not a bill, it's something fun.

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That's awesome, that is awesome.

00:32:38.845 --> 00:32:43.787
So so now it's time for the celebrity cup, where we marinate in the juices of the celebrity.

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Did you guys know that neo is in a polyamorous relationship with?

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Not one not two, not three but four women.

00:32:50.890 --> 00:32:52.821
Yes, and you know what I read today.

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So I read today that in an interview he so this is how he schedules his time with them.

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Did you hear?

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this too.

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Yeah, I saw it.

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Yeah, Did you hear?

00:33:00.876 --> 00:33:09.031
this too, so he spends one week with each of them individually and then brings them all together for group time.

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Wow, yeah.

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Right, so every month.

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So he spends like a one week with one, one week with the other, one week with the other, one week with the other, and then on week five he brings them all together for like group time or whatever, and that's like a circle.

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And then it goes on like that.

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Yeah, so then he starts again right Week one week two week three.

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I have so many questions, though, like I just I feel like, first of all, he's got to have a favorite right.

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Don't you think you would, you would right?

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Second of all, I feel there's got to be so much jealousy amongst these girls.

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He said they all get along I wonder if they do stuff together, or is it just him and the girl individually each time, or do they all do things together?

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Are they bisexual again, so many?

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questions?

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I don't know, because they only give you their, their perspective they don't need a full, and he has money.

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Guys out there working to build your business or whatever you're doing, if you're not a millionaire, don't try this at home.

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Don't try this at home.

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10 out of 10 would not recommend trying this at home.

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It would not work.

00:34:17.744 --> 00:34:23.409
But it's funny because he had said when he came out with this, he was like he introduces his pyramid.

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He calls them his pyramid and he says, since the world is so intrigued, I guess I should introduce my loves properly.

00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:31.967
Ladies and gentlemen, I present my pyramid.

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Christina, they all have nicknames Pretty baby, twin flame, phoenix, featherather and Sexy Little Something.

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Oh, my God, is he married to one of them?

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Do you know?

00:34:42.445 --> 00:34:42.987
I'm not sure.

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Oh, I have no idea, I don't know.

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He used to be married and then he got divorced and he does have kids with his ex-wife, and I will say he's very honest and open about this, like he doesn't hide it from his kids.

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He says they're all his girlfriends.

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He's very upfront and honest, so good for him.

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I mean, what's his name?

00:35:00.657 --> 00:35:10.510
Nick Cannon is kind of doing something similar, because he's got what like 13 kids by like eight different women or something like that.

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So it's like, like you said, if you've got the money for it, you know what I'm wondering, though, because Nia was saying in an interview that he was raised by all women, like five aunts, sisters, his mother, so he's constantly he grew up surrounded by a bunch of women.

00:35:25.231 --> 00:35:32.492
So I'm wondering if it's like a childhood thing, like now he still wants to be surrounded by a bunch of women, maybe I wouldn't.

00:35:32.780 --> 00:35:34.445
I personally wouldn't be able to do it.

00:35:34.764 --> 00:35:53.407
I personally as a man now, when I was younger, I've had some experiences in my promiscuous days, but as a conscious man now, it takes enough energy just to truly know one woman, so for me that just sounds exhausting.

00:35:53.447 --> 00:36:01.990
Like well, like what we were talking about earlier, like all the boxes to check, like how are you filling all of these spaces for each woman?

00:36:02.231 --> 00:36:02.552
You know what?

00:36:02.572 --> 00:36:09.945
I mean Like, how are you there for her physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of these different?

00:36:09.945 --> 00:36:20.092
Ways that that makes me want to take a breath even as you're going through it Right, right, like how do you decompress from that when you have to be that for four different women?

00:36:20.092 --> 00:36:20.994
That's crazy.

00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:23.737
I wonder if they're all like in sync on their period.

00:36:23.737 --> 00:36:24.159
Oh, I'm sure so when?

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.925
He has them all at the same time.

00:36:25.925 --> 00:36:29.253
He makes sure, when I have them all together, no one's PNSing.

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.150
There are so many possibilities of what could be going on in that situation.

00:36:34.150 --> 00:36:34.530
I know.

00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:37.289
So where do you take a woman out on a first date?

00:36:40.382 --> 00:36:42.887
Where of what could be going on in that situation, I know.

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So where do you take a woman out on a first date?

00:36:44.150 --> 00:36:44.711
Where's your?

00:36:45.012 --> 00:36:45.614
favorite first date spot.

00:36:45.614 --> 00:36:47.297
One place that I really like because it's super chill is the living room.

00:36:47.297 --> 00:36:47.818
I love the living room.

00:36:47.818 --> 00:36:48.500
I forgot about that place.

00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:49.168
Yeah, I love the living room.

00:36:49.190 --> 00:36:49.800
That's a great first date spot.

00:36:50.764 --> 00:36:51.628
Great vibe.

00:36:51.628 --> 00:36:56.009
The vibe in there is just super nice Low lighting.

00:36:56.128 --> 00:36:57.492
I always talk about lighting.

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I'm always like I don't care where we go, but the lights better be dim.

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I like a dimly lit space, and they do lighting right there.

00:37:05.871 --> 00:37:06.231
Yeah.

00:37:06.713 --> 00:37:07.014
Yeah.

00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.226
Now it's time for the juiciest segment of the show, the meat grab.

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Are you down for the challenge?

00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:13.150
Up for the grab?

00:37:13.150 --> 00:37:13.731
Willing to share?

00:37:13.731 --> 00:37:14.753
Pick one if you dare.

00:37:14.753 --> 00:37:17.121
Up for the grab?

00:37:17.121 --> 00:37:17.461
Willing to share?

00:37:17.461 --> 00:37:17.922
Pick one if you dare.

00:37:17.922 --> 00:37:18.103
I'm down.

00:37:18.103 --> 00:37:19.025
Some are innocent, some are not so innocent.

00:37:19.025 --> 00:37:19.327
Get a good one.

00:37:19.327 --> 00:37:26.452
We're always so disappointed when it's a vanilla boy, I know what is your perfect oh?

00:37:26.452 --> 00:37:29.557
No, you gotta take another one yeah, give me something else.

00:37:29.577 --> 00:37:30.721
I need something spicy.

00:37:30.721 --> 00:37:33.985
I'm a sagittarius, don't hate on me.

00:37:34.025 --> 00:37:35.728
Someone didn't mix these up Me.

00:37:43.423 --> 00:37:45.590
Let's see what's your favorite place on earth.

00:37:45.590 --> 00:37:48.121
Another brain tube?

00:37:48.143 --> 00:37:49.628
Well, answer it and choose another one.

00:37:49.628 --> 00:37:50.844
What's your favorite place on earth?

00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:54.670
My favorite place on earth is I don't know.

00:37:54.670 --> 00:37:59.766
Everything is so great I'd say being with you In between a woman's legs.

00:37:59.766 --> 00:38:02.166
You can make it spicy.

00:38:02.601 --> 00:38:03.766
That can come with stress sometimes.

00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:07.827
I'm very conscious of what I say.

00:38:07.827 --> 00:38:10.164
My favorite place is right here with me.

00:38:10.164 --> 00:38:13.512
Right here, truth.

00:38:13.512 --> 00:38:17.010
You are on a shopping spree in a sex shop.

00:38:17.010 --> 00:38:18.644
What do you buy?

00:38:22.188 --> 00:38:29.289
hey, you wanted the sexy one oh man, what would I buy?

00:38:29.389 --> 00:38:41.369
I'd say lots of lube, because I'm one of those guys I just with all the no diddy, with all the I was just gonna say that with all the, with all the I was just going to say that with all the P Diddy stuff that's coming out right now I don't.

00:38:41.369 --> 00:38:43.568
You might want to rethink your answer.

00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:57.744
I say lots of lube because I'm one of those guys I hope this isn't T TMI, but I'm one of those guys Like, if I'm sexually maybe I shouldn't have, but if I'm with a woman, I'm with one woman.

00:38:57.744 --> 00:39:04.282
I'm with one woman, I'm with a partner, I like the fan on and you know what happens when you have the fan on.

00:39:05.045 --> 00:39:13.128
Oh yeah, you know, and so I'm like plenty of lube, I know I'm going to use lots of lube and I like the way the bodies feel when they rub together.

00:39:13.128 --> 00:39:20.028
So like massages, like I like doing massages, so it'd be a mix of different types of lubes and lotions.

00:39:20.110 --> 00:39:20.309
Yeah, great.

00:39:20.309 --> 00:39:20.932
Well, that's a wrap.

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Do you have any more questions?

00:39:22.860 --> 00:39:25.248
I don't I like the note that we've ended on today.

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Well, that's a wrap.

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Thank you so much for joining us here this week at the meat market and thank you so much, princeton.

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00:39:53.364 --> 00:39:57.552
Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.

00:39:57.552 --> 00:39:59.586
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.

00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.684
So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.

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His wife just reached out to me.