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Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
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He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
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So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is married with kids.
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His wife just reached out to me.
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Welcome to the meat market.
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The single scene is a slaughterhouse and we are here to devour it.
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We are your hosts.
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I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess and today's sizzling single is Sam.
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Welcome.
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Thank you for having me.
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So you had made the comment that you ended not only a relationship but an entire engagement because of your gut intuition.
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Tell us about that.
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Yeah, so over time I've really developed my intuition and that was like the main time in my life where I figured out how to do that.
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I it's really hard to distinguish between anxiety and fear and my gut, and I know that a lot of people feel that same way.
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But at this point I figured out that my gut is like it's like a little tug in my stomach that always tells me no, and I use that for any situation.
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At this point.
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I'm apartment hunting right now and there's one that's right above me that is like ideal, perfect.
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But when I think about it I get that little tug and that's it telling me like no, that's not it.
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And so sometimes it kind of defies logic and evidence, but I know that's how tuned in I am at this point is it's just?
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I know it's a no.
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So do you remember that you know him?
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You went on a motorcycle ride with him.
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There was a guy that was very good looking, very successful, smart, and he was pursuing me and I just had that gut intuition telling me no, ron, so I didn't go there.
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And then he turned out to be freaking psycho crazy, like out of control.
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I think we chatted about this and it's funny.
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It's always so interesting to me to see women posting in these like Facebook groups.
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You know, like the, are we dating the same guy?
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Like, like something in my gut tells me it's off, but like I need proof.
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It's like why do we need proof?
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As women Like, if something doesn't feel right, we should trust our guts more.
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Because it's like, if it's not right with you, it probably isn't going to be right, and then it's like the proof is likely just going to cause more hurt.
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So it's like cut it off, walk away.
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Trust your gut always.
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I think there's a huge lesson in that.
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And I haven't listened to it before and kind of dove right into a relationship that I should not have and that turned out to be crazy.
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I've done the same thing, yeah, cause we try to override it, cause we're like we want this to work, we want to, you know, but yeah, it never turns out well.
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In my case it was a friend had set us up and I said to her I was like I just it.
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Like you know, this happened and this happened and it just doesn't feel right.
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And she was like no, no, no, he's a great guy.
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Like I promise you, he was just nervous and we've talked about this on the show before.
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Like if I would have just trusted my gut from the first date.
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I would have saved myself years like years of my life.
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You know it's crazy, do you guys?
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believe that, when it's the right person, that you won't feel hesitation or that you won't be overthinking it.
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I think so.
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When I met my husband, I didn't overthink anything and I didn't stress about anything.
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I never stressed about when to text him, what to text him, didn't think about if I say this, is he going to judge me?
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If I ask this, is he going to judge me?
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It just came so naturally and so easily.
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I tend to not stress about that stuff anyway, you're lucky.
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I wouldn't know what that's like.
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But, yeah, I do think that women's intuition is always right and you should definitely listen to it.
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Yeah, agreed.
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So you also made the comment that you absolutely do not want kids, and that's a deal breaker.
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So tell us about that.
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Yeah about that, yeah, I'm.
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I mean, I'm 33 and I just never have felt that biological urge to have kids or, I guess, the maternal instinct.
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I have a dog and he's my everything and I love being mom to him.
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But I just, no matter what relationship people are like, you're gonna meet a guy and he's gonna change your mind and I don't know if that's a good thing if I change my mind just because of a person, because then what happens if something happens to that relationship?
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But I've just I've never wanted them.
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Do you like kids Like?
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Do you like being around kids?
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Do you have nieces and nephews?
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I have nieces and nephews and I love them and I love being around them.
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But I get overstimulated kind of easily and I think that's one of the reasons that I don't is because I like, I like my quiet, I like my alone time.
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And you don't really get that when you like to be able to give the kids back to their parents at the end of the night.
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Like not that you don't want them to come home with you, basically but like, and maybe once they get older, um, then it's it's easier to spend time with them, but at least the younger kids I it's it's harder for me, yeah so question have you ever dated a guy that you didn't feel something negative in your gut, that you were super happy with and you thought that it was going to end in marriage?
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Yes, but that didn't last very long, because then my gut finally came in.
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So maybe not, yeah.
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So I'm wondering if it is fear and anxiety of I don't know commitment or no, no, because I think every relationship that I've had has put me in the place that I need to be, like the one that I had last year.
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That I've talked to you guys about before.
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That it turned out was really crazy.
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It ended up getting me my own apartment in this, where I've talked to you guys about before.
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That it turned out was really crazy.
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It ended up getting me my own apartment in this and where I've developed my own community, and it's really been amazing.
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So good things have come from listening to my gut, even though at the time it's been really crappy and uncomfortable and doesn't feel good everything does happen for a reason.
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I'm a firm believer in that at the time it might suck, but you just have to keep reminding yourself that it's going to work out for the better in the long run and you're going to look back and say thank god it happened just as it did yeah, and you need to figure out like what the relationship was meant to talk, to teach you, yeah, right, like what was the lesson supposed to be in the relationship, even though it didn't work out and that one that I'm talking about is boundaries, because I didn't have strong enough boundaries, and so it really taught me how and I'm a people pleaser too.
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So having to get over my people pleasing and then having to establish strong boundaries too, you got some good quotes.
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I love your one that you said I was blinded by the blue eyes.
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He had really pretty blue eyes a narcissist right yeah, so you kind of overlooked that red flag because you were blinded by the blue eyes.
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So tell us about him well, he was really good at convincing me how crazy he was about me and I kind of fell into that because and I hate saying this, but he was.
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He is really good looking and I I hadn't dated someone who looked exactly like him before.
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I'm not trying to insult anybody, I've dated in the past but he was just all for me and that felt really good, because the last relationship I was in it didn't feel like he was all for me.
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As much as I tried to make it that way or like ask, like please can I have, like I need more from you, I need more emotional availability, that kind of thing, and I wasn't getting it it.
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So when I started getting that from this guy, I was like oh well, like this is what it's supposed to be like.
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And then it turns out it was not it was not right love bombing yeah yeah, and I I mean.
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You hear about love bombing, you hear about gaslighting and manipulation, and I'd never experienced it before and in moment I didn't realize I was experiencing it either.
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And looking back now I'm like, oh my God, how did I let myself go through that for the months that I did?
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But again, kind of with what the gut instinct thing is you're hopeful that you can get through it or that it's just that, it's just fear, that it's whatever.
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But in this case it was my my gut was right.
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So what are some of the things that he would do?
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Like did he say I love you really early?
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Was it gifts?
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Was it like acts of service for the love?
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Yeah.
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What did it look like for you?
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Yeah, he was.
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I mean telling me he was crazy about me wanting to spend a bunch of time with me, wanting to, yeah, just be around me all the time and very complimentary, making me feel good, that kind of thing.
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So it was more about action and the words that he was saying yeah such a red flag.
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I've been with guys that do that and it never lasts, yeah and I feel like love bombing looks different from different people, depending on what, what either, and I don't know if it's their love language or if it's what they think that your love language is.
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And so if he felt like, oh, she really needs words of affirmation, the words of affirmation work, it's like then, then that's all it is.
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They're hooks.
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Yes, yeah, like I have a friend who she's been in a relationship like that too, but he gave her like a car and he gave her gifts and trips to Europe and that kind of thing, which which got her in.
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You know, yeah, yeah, wouldn't do that for me, though so there's another Sam quote that I love.
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You're like.
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I really like meeting people in the wild, so are you?
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not on the dating apps.
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I'm not on the dating apps I was.
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I've not on the dating apps.
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I'm not on the dating apps I was.
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I've been on and off of them.
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I'm not right now.
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I think that it's easier for me to get a feel for people's energy in person, and the dating apps are so hard, Like it.
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It does not feel like many men make an effort at all to have good conversation and part of's like why are you even on here if you're not gonna talk?
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you know, um, and I get more nervous going on a date with someone that I haven't met before.
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So, yeah, it's nicer to when you actually meet them in person and then you get a feel for them right away do you have any dating disaster stories or have you been catfished?
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I have.
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Um, I wasn't catfished, but I went on a date once and he took me to this like decrepit amusement park.
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Wow, that's kind of creepy here in town, no this was in Colorado.
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Okay, Uh, and we didn't go on any rides, we just sat at a table and he, he, just, he was just really weird and he told me his favorite kind of music was aggressive Dutch music.
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I was like, what is aggressive Dutch music?
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And and you know, I'm sure you guys have been on dates before where you're like I need to leave.
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Like I need to get out of here.
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So I was trying to think of any excuse that I could to get out and I was like I'm so sorry, I have to leave.
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I have to meet my friends for Starbucks, which wasn't true, but I legitimately just drove to a Starbucks afterwards in case he like saw where I was going.
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But it was, it was just, it was icky.
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Yeah, did he put on wooden shoes and do some clogging?
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I wouldn't have been surprised if he did do that, but like what the heck's aggressive Dutch music I know?
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right, I'm going to look that up now.
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That's what I think of, like the Tulip Festival back in my hometown, when they all put on the wooden shoes and like broom the streets and do their clogging in the middle of the street.
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But what makes it aggressive?
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And that's what I'm like imagining the music in my head and I just can't imagine such like a jovial, you know tradition no being aggressive because they're such nice people.
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I have many.
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Dutch friends, and they're so nice.
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I know how could they be aggressive?
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maybe it's like EDM or house music or something like that.
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I don't know, but it's not for me, so tell us about you.
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So what are your hobbies?
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What do you do in your free time?
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what do I do my well, I mentioned, I have a dog, so I spend a lot of time with him.
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We have a daily tradition of going to dog park every day.
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Yeah, and it's.
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It's fun because it's always with the same people.
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Um, a lot of them are in their seventies and eighties, so I feel like really comfortable just hanging out with all of them.
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I love hiking, which is so great in Arizona, and I grew up in Colorado too, so I get to do that a lot.
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Um, I love horseback riding, I love singing.
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Uh, the last two I really need to do more of, because there are certain things, you know, that bring you joy in life and I I don't do enough of those two things.
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Singing what's your go-to karaoke song?
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We always ask this question.
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That is a great question Um.
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Do you karaoke?
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I haven't karaoke in years, okay, but you do but you will.
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Yeah, the last one that I sang was who's better of your boots been under by shania twain?
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Oh, yeah, that's a good one that's a good one, that's a crowd pleaser I feel like, yeah, any shania, any shania, that is true where do you go to karaoke in town?
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if you go to karaoke, I've never been in arizona you've never been in arizona no, there's some Arizona, you haven't.
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No, oh, there's some good places Great Vine and Ernie's.
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Have you been to karaoke at?
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Ernie's up north Is that Scottsdale?
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And Shea, uh-huh, I have.
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Oh, that's so close to me.
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Yeah, okay, yeah.
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There's a couple really good karaoke spots.
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Okay, are you good?
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Are you a good singer?
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I think I used to be a good singer.
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I grew up doing choir and a of acapella, so much um, but I haven't sang in a long time.
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My mom would say yes yeah my mom always wants me, she's your biggest fan yeah, but not so much anymore yeah, so what are your deal breakers?
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what are my deal breakers?
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Um, I mean, unfortunately, a man who wants to have more kids.
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I don't have a problem with a man that has kids already.
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Necessarily, I would say someone who has a lot of drama with their ex that they are still involved in or that they still talk about.
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Oh, this is a good date.
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It's not a disaster story, but kind of.
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I went on a date when I was living in Montana with this guy who I asked.
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One of the first things I asked him was like how are you today?
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He went into a really long spiel about how much he hates his ex-wife and how he wishes she would fall off a cliff.
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Wow, that is bad, oh my gosh Like starting off the date like that first of all, but then also telling me that I'm like ooh, that's kind of like an automatic no for me dog, you know Wow.
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So someone who's negative um, and someone who doesn't have emotional depth or emotional awareness to like I, I need I connect with someone immediately on an emotional level.
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That's how I, how it is for me, so I can't do the superficial, small talk.
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Speaking of wishing your ex-wife would fall off a cliff.
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Did you hear about that?
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That doctor that tried to push his wife off a cliff in Hawaii by asking her to take a selfie on the edge of a cliff.
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And she was too scared to because she didn't like heights, so she was uncomfortable, so she wouldn't do it.
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So then he got a rock and started smashing her skull in.
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No what.
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And she was like crawling away and so he got an injection out and was going to inject her with something and luckily, two witnesses or passerbyers like walked past and she like screamed for help and now he's arrested.
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But crazy was this recently?
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It was recently, it was in the news this week.
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Yeah, that happened in colorado too, in rocky mountain national park, but she actually fell and died, and so there's a whole documentary about it, called wild crime, about like crimes that happen in the wilderness, and one of them is about that is she was taking a photo of herself.
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Oh my God, he pushed her off.
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That's terrifying If anyone ever mentions pushing their ex off of a cliff on a date like I am running for the hills.
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Like that's scary this lady.
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She survived.
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So karma.
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He's in jail and she's living her best life.
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Good for her, though she's probably scarred forever so are you looking to get married again or get?
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married, get married.
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I think so.
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A lot of people that I meet nowadays are like there's no point in getting married, like because you can be committed the same way, and that's true, but I think that part of it is is me wanting someone to want me enough to marry, if that makes sense, because in the past I've not felt marriable, or by by people that I've been with.
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Now that that sounds sad to say.
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I'm not trying to be.
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Woe is me.
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But yes, I do want to get married eventually.
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Yeah, and then um, let's see, do you have any crazy talents or unique facts about yourself that not many people know?
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Um you can sing?
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I can sing, I guess.
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Yeah, I don't really tell many people that I can sing, so that is probably something of a surprise to even my close friends.
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Now, just because I don't do it very often.
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So probably singing I can't think of anything else off the top of my head right now.
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That would be like super impressive.
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Do you have a type like what's the, what's the type of guy that you're looking for?
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Physical or like personality characteristics?
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funny athletic.
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Uh, I think an important thing is is that people like him?
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I don't like I don't know if that's thought about as much, but that not necessarily that he has a lot of friends, but that he's liked by everyone like general, like's a general good character, someone who's kind and, I would say, athletic for sure, has a work ethic, ambitious, caring and wants to take care of people in his life and close to his family.
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That's kind of a deal breaker too, is I really?
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Well, maybe not a deal breaker, but I want someone that is close to their family and wants to be close to mine too.
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You know I love about you is you're so naturally beautiful, like.
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You have beautiful hair, you're hardly wearing any makeup.
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You seem so real and down to earth.
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You're just like real, authentic, good people.
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Thank you, I appreciate that.
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I'm ready for it.
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It says I've been dating this guy for three months and he's amazing, kind, funny and even texts back at a reasonable speed.
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But there's one issue he insists on calling me bro.
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At first I thought it was a joke, but now bro has kind of replaced my actual name.
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Good morning, bro.
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I miss you.
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Bro.
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You're so beautiful bro.
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Last night he leaned in for a kiss and whispered you're the best thing that's ever happened to me.
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Bro, am I dating my best friend or a gym buddy?
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Should I say something or just accept the fact that I'm in a romantic relationship with my bro?